Sparked by a Georgia Bigfoot photo(video above), the following is a discussion between Cliff Curtis and others regarding both shaky cameras and subject matter.
Cliff Curtis:
I’ll tell you why “every” photo is either blurry or not sufficient for you. It’s because you haven’t looked at all of them and have a biased outlook making them unavailable to yourself. These creatures are doing their damnedest to avoid us and people who do come across them with a camera are too scared shitless to pursue them. Try hiking into a real wilderness (labeled as such on a map) and you might figure out that it’s easy for them to be in there avoiding us. When all the photos and footage look similar to this, why would you want to think people are putting on costumes to be faking it? I’v never seen one of these costumes, have you? Seems like a pretty good way to get your ass shot by mistake.
Fish Renfroe Boyd:
True. And when your in the woods the lighting for a picture or film is always darker. These animals generally take off as soon as you spotted them and start scrambling to aim a camera in a rush. If they didnt take off and they are standing still looking at you or coming towards you, then your gonna be too scared to even bother with the camera. In the woods, it doesnt take but a few steps in any direction and its gonna disappear into the brush, so you only have about 5 to 10 seconds to get over the initial shock of seeing a huge creature, determine if its going away from you or coming for you, then after that you think to grab the camera. Sometimes catching just a quick image of something darting into the brush at the last second. Anytime its in an isolated area that people hardly ever pass though it automatically makes the theory of someone in a costume just dumb. How would that person have known someone would eventually walk through there and see it, and be holding a camera? And thats not even mentioning that just about every time someone drops the costume theory, the thing is 8 to 10 feet tall and built like a house and runs with speeds of a horse.
Cliff Curtis:
I know they exist because I’v seen the fresh tracks in very remote places and I’v followed those tracks to see them doing things humans couldn’t do. One trackway I followed went sprinting down a steep mountain, weaving around trees and taking leaps I can’t do (especially barefoot). It seems in the daytime they tend to run from us but at night you might not be so lucky.
Fish Renfroe Boyd:
At night they tend to encircle you, or stalk you and/or make a move on you. It seems rare they do that in the day, unless your alone and look like a sitting duck. In the night they seem to not care if you have people with you because there’s most likely a group of them as well and they know their nearly invisible in the dark. Maybe if everyone your with is armed the shooting might chase them off. I wouldn’t even attempt to find them in the dark when their advantages are doubled. Unless it was some well laid out trap with plenty of help, taking advantage of them making the bold approaches in the night, instead of avoiding you completely. It would risk loosing someone or everyone though. Just like trying to ambush other people in war. But if all your doing is trying to see one, then day time would be slightly easier and safer.
Cliff Curtis:
I think they’re nocturnal and are kind of blinded by light like cats. At night they’re dangerous and like to throw things. They also try to warn us to keep out by breaking trees over at the edge of their territory but seem to come running when they hear knocking. We could get better Bigfoot videos if we had the nerve to do it. Whenever I’v gone searching for Bigfoots in the wilderness I’v never seen anyone else out there.
Fish Renfroe Boyd:
Yeah it would for sure take some nerve. If you want good pictures or film then day time is when to go, just to be sure you see the film clearly. But if you want a body, then night time seems to be the way to go. But you gotta be ready for a fight. Most stories that include groups of bigfoot seem to always have about 4 or 5 of them. So you would want to outnumber that, but hide the numbers at the same time. Perhaps a fake camp sight cooking campfire food all night with 1 or 2 people on watch appearing to be just hanging out. With the rest of the hunters hiding within the tents. Maybe if they smell the food and hear/see the 2 people carrying on like normal, they’ll feel safe enough to move in on them. When its obvious their around and in the campsite and making a move. The other hunters within the couple of tents can spring out into action. Its dangerous and complicated but they probably wouldnt move in if they saw 6, 7 or 8 men. But if they observe 1 or 2 in the open they might close in not ready for 5 more to come out firing. It would take some hardcore dudes willing to wait it out all night and quick at the draw, and quick to get out with the body before they comeback more ready. Some kind of trap like that might work. Nearby hidden numbers in a tent(s) so its impossible to see them, quick response, and firepower. Their stronger and faster, but we’re still smarter. But like I said thats if someone wants a body. Films and pictures are a different story with a lot less risk and coordination, but still scary haha.
Shang Hunter:
It’s great to see an open minded individual like yourself.Kurt i am in n.central pa. and have been an avid woodsman for a great many yrs. A wild crafter,tracker, fly fisherman. ect. My wife and i encounter them EVERY yr. in the spring,summer and fall.I retired at 40 am 50 now and IN THE WOODS DAILY!! for the last ten yrs.They travel in bands,are def. nocturnal,eat a VERY WIDE variety of foods.My wife and i just found awesome tracks of a baby that the parent just put down in a sand bar close to a spring and 2 minutes later i seen a (parent) massive take off at a speed of 50 miles an hr. OR GREATER ! They often will block the old logging roads i am on in the same areas that i frequent often. Naturally i keep this to myself as my wife and i naturally get ridiculed when i have commented in these videos They know we are harmless (wife and i) The skeptics are the ones that DO NOT go DEEP in the woods on a regular basis.They do not understand how intelligent these are. I am often asked where are the bones,proof and d.n.a. I have hair, scat i and a bone (humorous) of something massive? studying anthropology now. The have ALWAYS been here.As you know,in the woods when ANYTHING dies the scavengers eat the bones of anything dead. In my 45 yrs in the woods since i was 5 i have ONLY came across 1 squirrel skull and one baby bear (still born) ? The skeptics DO NOT UNDERSTAND that there are MANY MILLIONS of acres that people (may have not ever) walked on before in the past…..The human race is such an arrogant,ignorant race ! We are not the apex predator of the woods 🙂 God’s speed !
Cliff Curtis:
Thank you. I used to frequently hike and explore wilderness areas of Pac.North West. I’m very aware these creatures have absolutely amazing abilities. I tracked one for almost a mile that was running and leaping it’s way down the steep forest slope, in and out of between trees, in a way a human could never do, without getting hurt. Apparently it was running from me. There was a small meadow (in the clouds) at the summit of the mountain. I noticed a wide variety of plants within this salad bowl and it looked like it had been a soft place to lay down for a rest also. I intended to stake out the area for a few days with a camera but lost my nerve when it got dark. There’s something rather very terrifying about having a bigfoot in your midst while alone at night in the forest.
Shang Hunter:
Your in an area there where the most sightings occur and there is a pattern associated with the rainfall there on the west coast. I hope you still are able to get out at least once in a while,being 50 now i am starting to slow down a bit due to arthritis but still get around really well in the woods.I dread the day where i can no longer enjoy my 6-8 hrs a day in the woods.I really liked you adventure you described.Again i find that most of the skeptics are the ones who are NEVER in the woods on a full time basis and or NOT AT ALL. i AM ON TO TWO ADULTS AND A BABY RIGHT NOW…oops caps and have some phenomenal prints and pictures.It was nice talking to you and again hope that you get out every so often 🙂
olddude51:
That’s a point I make regularly – people seem to think, if something dies in the woods, there’ll be a nice, fully articulated skeleton just waitin’ to be found. In fact, even fairly large animal carcasses can be reduced to scattered bones inside a week. Aside from the skull, the pelvis and, perhaps, a few of the larger bones in the body, nothing left lying around is likely to even attract any notice. And, like you, despite years in the woods, all I’ve found was a coyote skull, a couple (unmatched) deer antlers, a single elk antler, and a deer femur. Now, I know bear and elk and cougar all live and die in these woods out here, but if I had to prove their existence with a skeleton, I couldn’t. And as for Mr. Curtis, thank you – if I hear one more person tell me how pacific and non-aggressive these Pac NW “Bigfeet” are, I’m gonna puke. If the stories told are remotely reliable, then these things are monsters, quite capable of twisting your head or arms off. The old timers, back in the gold-panning and fur-trapping days considered them dangerous. They may be more leery of showing themselves, now that people are around in far greater numbers, but that doesn’t excuse treating them as tho’ they’re “Harry” from “Harry and the Hendersons”. Any animal which can kill you will, under the right circumstances. At the very least, one needs to respect their obvious strength.
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